Retreat: Mind, Body, and Spirit

Collective Consciousness of Men and Women

Episode Summary

Collective Consciousness of Men and Women covers: * Women’s Energy & Powers: Women's Consciousness. * Men's Collective Consciousness: Life perspectives.

Episode Transcription

INTRO

You don't deserve to be here..  That thought was projected and now..  I’m carrying that thought.. Because that was projected..  Somewhere in my ancestral lineage..

Nature understands.. But nature doesn't fall into this sense… of ..  victim because nature will always remain at a high vibration..  

Who are YOU really? I mean .. who doesn't wanna know the answer to that..  

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I don't know where this need of control came from....   

 

Like perfectionism?

 

Yeah.....  perfectionism and control--- and it's like just let go alright.....

 

So let's talk about it from a woman's perspective....  and then maybe I can talk about it from a men's perspective.... 

 

Yeah...

 

Because then maybe we can hash out some  of the things that...  you know... women go through and  you know I can maybe... just be open and honest about...  what guys tend to go through....

 

Yeah... okay... so in regards to what.... 

 

I mean you know...with the present moment...  things like that... because obviously women...  collectively have had a different journey from men...  cause lets say there could be some things right?   You know.. maybe you know.. women...  have had like...  forms of suppression...  you know.. things that... you know... as a collective has been passed down ancestors.. right?   But with men.. you know.. there have been a lot... they wage a lot of wars right... you know there's a lot of...  you know... collective frustrations... from all of that as well....  

 

Yeah like the more primitive nature...   yeah...

 

And those really... I mean....   it's scientifically proven that...  ends up in our DNA.. We have specific DNA that lives there...     we learned that we can alter that DNA... we can make those telemeter lengths longer.. however....  the thing is that you know.....     it shows up so....   we may even have to deal with... you know... the collective...    I guess announce...  of all of that and that's okay...   you know.. but how would you say you know for women...   you know.. I guess like...   maybe if you think about...  maybe with the relationship with your daughter... how if you wanted to try and  help and learn...     

 

Yeah I guess like...  for me it's about really... empowerment like you know..   I do feel that...  you know.. there's a huge need for women to... really feel empowered...  and I think like...  I really discovered that...   When I gave birth...  to…  I would say.. surprisingly like...  after I gave birth to Myrah...  cause that was a very empowering experience....  where you know... like I basically....   almost did it all on my own....  right?

 

Yeah, like literally...  it came last minute..  

 

Yeah I think like...  Myrah was born at 4:14 AM and then my midwife came in at like 4AM exactly 4AM....  and she's like hold on hold on...  

 

Kind of set up all the things... 

 

She's trying to set up all her stuff...  and she's like you can't give birth right now...  no... just let me set everything up....  I'm like okay... I can't wait anymore....  

 

Yeah you were like in a trance....

 

Women’s Energy & Powers

 

I know... yeah... it's just like such an empowering experience....   and like it kind of made me realize that....  like there could be this whole misconception...  about women.. women's empowerment really is....   right? It's not about.. women becoming more like men it's actually women  you know... becoming... aware and tuning in and tapping into their feminine goddess like power, right?  And it's completely different...  it's like you have creation energy... you know... fulling through you...  and you're able to  ... you're able to like you know...  going into the inmaterial..  and bringing it to the material...  it's like wow.. you're a woman....  you have those kinds of superpowers....  you know... so.... yeah.. I feel as if I'd always.... want my daughter to carry that... empowered feeling...  and I guess like not ever lose connection with that.. you know?

 

Yeah, that's interesting....  so then I mean... you know...  like what do you see...  because it's obviously something going on....  when stuff's been passed down...  with mothers and things like that.... what do you find seems to be this recurring theme....  because it seems to be this sort of...  I guess... this sort of....  sense of knowing that there are deep connections...  that happen between a mother and a daughter...  and you know.. there are definitely like... I guess and even...  the environmental upbringing...  is a big part too and then....   now all of a sudden... then become a big part of your thoughts....  

 

-Yeah well absolutely because...  I mean... when you really look at..  how much genetic material we inherit from our parents...  100% is inherited from our parents right?   50% comes from the mother and then 50% comes from the father...  and there's specific genes you inherit.... from the mother and specific genes you inherit from the father.... so it's like you're this unique combination of...  your mother and your father.. right?   And so basically now,  you know there's this study of epigenetics...   and neuroplasticity...  in which we are starting to really discover what's going on... with you know... our DNA... and basically it's all like... collective consciousness that has been passed down....   from your ancestors.... and so when it comes to a mother, daughter relationship... it's really really really strong...  you know.. I'm carrying things...  from my mother who's carrying things from her mother...  who's carrying things from her mother....  and now I'm going to be passing them to my daughter... and my daughter is going to pass them to her daughter....   and it's like... so all of these...  you know.. ancestral DNA... is being passed down and that includes...  all sorts of things that...  you know... women have endured...   depending on your lineage of course...  you know... it could have been... rape.. it could have been  you know... murder... it could have been...

 

Burnings?.

 

Burnings... exactly burnings....  

 

Because a lot of women were burned.... thinking because women.... found their creative life force....  and its literally been documented...

 

It was a threat yeah...

 

...and it was perceived as a threat, they were labelled as witches....  I mean lets just let the Elephant out of the back....  I mean lets just....  

 

Yeah.. just because they were....   in tune with their moon cycle...  and they tuned in to this amazing....  powers... super powers....  they were seen as a threat...   which boggles my mind because....  it's like... 

 

We've actually met people....  that have ended up...  like.. you know.. showing up...  to do an  Ayahuasca ceremony..  and later they realized that...  that was something that happened ... they actually saw it... they saw .. what like  the trauma the collected trauma  from families.. even just  ... you know there were tribal war traps of stories but there were also stories about  burned witches...  I mean it's the most intense stuff.... 

 

Like for me.. it's different..it will always be different....   according to your culture... your roots .. all of that stuff is such a key component in all of it..... so basically for me....  in terms of my ancestry of women...  what i discovered was that... there's a lot of...like treating them as servants.....because they're  to serve you know...  the mother and the father and the family first and then...   it's like.. she's now part of another family and now she's serving this family.... 

 

It's no wonder that that reality gets created...  because really you're carrying that reality with you... of course..  cause you haven't released any of it...  you've been trained and conditioned..  to serve..right.. 

 

Yeah, exactly and that's all  ... that's what your female DNA is comprised of.. you know.. 

 

And it's no fault to the women because... that's the reality that they had...   so now all of a sudden...  they're taking that reality and  it's like... how can I best help... you know.. I'm gonna give this hard truth...  but in a way that...  you know.. they can also learn how to truly manage this situation because...    this is how the reality is...  I might as well.... 

 

I mean.. yeah for my ancestry it was that.. where   women are seen completely servants     but it goes even deeper because ......... that already leads to a lack of self worth.. but then there's also all sorts of things...  that happen where women  you know... somewhere...  and this is what I discovered... like through  journeying in ... that somewhere along the line...the birth of a woman  ... like just seeing a girl baby...  made them project that thought.... why are you even here.... you don't deserve to be here....  that thought was projected and now...  I'm carrying that thought...  because that was projected somewhere in my....  ancestral lineage...  

 

Well because...

 

Towards  a woman ... like why are you a girl...  

 

Cause mothers giving birth   fear that... like they actually fear having a girl...  because of their environment...   may have just valued...  you know. boys more... cultures exist like that...    

 

-Yeah.. and you know.. even like...   going even further back...   women were literally   killed right after they were born....   

 

Wow

 

So, that's like part of... feminine consciousness...  

 

Hard truth.. also brings acceptance also...  but you know.. I guess...  the thing is  .. what ends up happening is  ..  to no one's fault...  right? Because... at the end of the day it's like...  these were the cards that new generations were dealt for  

 

Yeah and you know Louise Hay puts it beautifully.. we're all victims of victims ... you know.. so there is no one to blame...   or you don't want to add to that victim consciousness...  you're now like.. oh my gosh...  I have been subjected to that... no....  you wanna see it as your point of power that....   you know what.. like....   damn right.. I chose to go through that...  so that I could be here today...   that you know what....  damn right.. I chose to go through that...   so that I could be here today....   

 

And now you're breaking free from that Victim identity right?

 

Exactly... yeah and you have to because...   all that victimization is....  surrounding femine consciousness so much...   and it really bothers me because its almost like...    you feel it's the right thing to do...  but its not.. its... you know....  it may temporarily feel good to be like..  oh I'm no victim...    you know.. temporarily  but once you begin to observe and  see what kind of realities it's creating for you...       you will never want to feel like a victim...    ever again... 

 

And I guess that's why it's really.. I think truth is a great philosophy to have... helps both men and women...  because at the end of the day it's like a philosophy... and if you can really start to just pay attention....  to the truth like...  whatever the truth is..... then it can allow you to just come to acceptance...  try not to see anyone and everyone as you know like a....  victims in all of this...  or perpetrators-- because now you're continuing to create that energy....   you're continuing to build that energy....    over and over and over....   Yeah... you're just adding to that collective consciousness...  so you know.. you have a choice...  and that's the most beautiful thing...  about you know.. being a human being...   you have choice.. you can choose to either act to that collective consciousness..  or you can decide to...  go into a new consciousness  like.. love.. like oneness.... 

 

Growth...

 

Like growth!  Like empowerment...  so you make that choice you know...  

 

And you're really just tapping into those new protections...  because that's the beautiful thing about nature... nature  understands but nature...  does not fall into this sense of  victim   but with you ... because...   nature will always remain at a high vibration....   always.. you just can't bring the vibration of nature down...   the vibration of nature will always  continue to move up....   

 

Yeah and you can either move up with it or ...  you can stay where you are...  

 

Because each word has different...  you know... vibrations...  like you were mentioning all those words and   things like that... and we're obviously not gonna repeat them...  but like... they hold different vibrations...   you know... collective energy...   on those specific words....  so when you know you're adding... the energy to a specific word...   like you know.. to curate some disease or this and that and now all of a sudden it had  .... also then creating it because you're actually adding   

 

Consciousness...

 

You're adding consciousness to it... you're adding...  more and more energy to  it.

 

Yeah....  

 

And many people are now expressing that thought form.. and it becomes a part....

 

Fear....   

 

Exactly...

 

Becomes fear...

 

It becomes fear.. it really does become fear...  and fear is actually a greater sickness than  anything else...  because now all of a sudden fear...   is actually rooted into chronic illness...  and things like that...

 

Absolutely...  yeah and it goes back to like...  fear is...  you living... is...  completely evident of you living in the future... you're not living in the now anymore... because if you're feeling fear...  then you're living in the future...    because it's some sort of worry...  you're projecting like.. what if this happens...  you know.. or what if this does not happen....     and that's living in the future...   

 

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I guess that's where surrendering just comes, cause you know... I think a part of one might even say... I mean it's sticky...  the thought is sticky... it's sticking to me...   even if I think that...I don't wanna think this... I am thinking this... because I don't want to think this....    so i guess for that person,    you know I guess....  it's like okay... you are....  feeling that I guess...at some level it might be better that you accept that....    it might be very improbable...  but at the same thing you could just....  

 

Yeah... it was really funny...  you know.. like...  when we were having the ceremonies...  I remember one day I was like …  scared...  I was so scared...  of like you know...  everything.. everything... and like I was actually having trouble breathing...  and then I went into one of the healers....  and I was literally just going to break down in that moment...  I-I-I-I--I-I i couldn't even talk... I was like.... and she's like stop... and she's like.. held my hands like that.. and she's like stop and she's looking straight into my eyes...  and shes like just observe  

 

 Hahaha

 

I'm like ... (Gasps) and it was like a switch.. and I'm like wow we have that power...  at any moment, we can  either like ….  feel like..  no no no no no Im gonna die right now.. or we can be like.... I'm observing this  feeling of I'm going to die... you know... so there is such a huge difference...  between like...  if you ride in you're fine with it  ... you're just going deeper and deeper into it you know....  or you can be on top of it you know...  I mean who doesn't like to be on top of things.... right?

 

Wow...  

 

Yeah..

 

So it's all rooted into fear... and I guess fear is...  created by us.. is a form of ego...  

 

Yeah, yeah... it definitely is...  it's a protection mechanism.... 

 

It's become a part of.... the experience of being grounded in a negative way... because you might wanna feel connected to this Earth in the right ways...  like appreciating the plants.... 

 

Love...  Oneness...  

 

But then what happens is we might be like okay.... you know what I wanna achieve success...  or I wanna do this...  and now you might be attached to the identity.... the identity of your career... 

 

And now you're creating more separation in your world...  

 

Yeah because you might be like.. what if I lose this identity... who would like me now?

 

Yeah...  

 

God forbid.. oh no.. the unknown...  turns out the  unknown is actually beautiful...  yeah I mean.. it's actually amazing... you know.. there's this beautiful...  book that totally... totally changed my life..  it's called the Untethered Soul by Michael Singer and it's just written so beautifully... and like you know... every chapter is... like you're going deeper and deeper and deeper... and beyond... and  it's amazing because if I ask you....   oh who are you... I'm Basim Mirza.... I'm like Basim Mirza is your name...  I asked you who are you.... and most people will start describing their profession... or you know.. I'm married to this person and I have  you know.. two kids and a dog... Yes I live in this place in the world...  and you start coming up with all these...  things that are not you... 

 

Exactly.

 

Like WHO are you, really..?  I mean, who doesn't wanna know the answer that...

 

Exactly   and then i guess what can actually be a lot of fun is not playing with that ego....It's like okay.... I mean it's impossible not to have an identity... 

 

Yeah, yeah I know... you can..  you can literally like.. you wouldn't be considered a citizen of your country anymore if you don't...  have an identity of course--- 

 

I mean the reality is that you can't just... 

 

The thing is...like you.... it's not that it becomes insignificant...  so basically now you're....  like you know who you really are....  and the act ... it's not an act is an illusion...  it's a perception.. it's just like... you know.. Dr. Joe Dispenza says it beautifully... it's like... you can see...  the masks that everyone decided to wear at the party...  you know.. so it's just kind of like that...   you begin to see things from a spiritual... perspective as opposed to a physical perspective...  where you literally start to see the meaning...  behind your encounters... your circumstances... your lessons.. like you can see the meaning behind them all.. and it doesn't matter like who is..  presenting them to you... you just love everyone... and you're seeing everyone from a place of love...  regardless of like.. their physical flaws... you're seeing things at a much deeper beyond... level where you're seeing what role they're playing in your growth... in your expansion...  and that's very important because...  then... there's not such a thing as  a bad relationship anymore...  because... you're... and of course...  like.. boundaries... are super important.. I'm not saying..that if you're in an abusive marriage..  stay in an abusive marriage  not like that.. those are boundaries that you have for yourself... 

 

There's a thing  as a part of collective consciousness..  it's called common sense..  

 

Yes of course....  

 

And common sense is beautiful because..  Abraham Hicks talks about...  in common sense...  

 

Exactly... yeah... Exactly.. common sense is so important  it's not like...   and the funny thing is.. common sense... is actually the least common of all senses... but the whole point is to you know.. discern .... this is where discernment comes in...  obviously and like self discernment... and having your own boundaries... of what you accept and  obviously like lets just say... that you know... if someone... is standing there with a knife... it's not like I'm gonna walk towards them...  nooo.. you know?

 

But it's important to start recognizing...  and that's where I think intention comes in....   intention is beautiful because.. intention is something that you can be aware of ... and become conscious about ? and now you know.. which relationships are great for you and...  which relationships can you know. lead you .kind of to the wrong path...   

 

And the funny thing about intention is... it does not involve... your actions... so it does not involve... you know.. self trickery.. lying games that you're playing...   with yourself... and the crazy thing is...  that the beautiful thing that  I love about intention...  is that it is self forgiving...  if you're able to forgive yourself...  in the process by asking yourself  what's  my intent?

 

You know.. am I gonna go rob a bank right now? No, I'm sitting here, I'm chilling ... my intention is pure...  Im happy you know.. I'm feeling good..  and now all of a sudden..  you're stepping right into the place where you wanna be... 

 

Yeah... absolutely... absolutely... and that's why I really love that prayer Hoʻoponopono... is such a beautiful prayer because... its  acknowledging... Im sorry... so it's almost the form of self forgiveness.... when you say i'm sorry... I forgive you... so you're forgiving the other person...  and then you're saying.. thank you.. so that's gratitude and then...  I love you which is tuning into the vibration of love...    so like in any instance... you hold that power...  whether you want to tune into those vibrations..  and it just starts with a small....  you know.. one word prayer.. 

 

And isn't saying thanks...  giving at a subtle level...  because you know... its been said you know... by Tony Robbins... he said the secret to living is giving... 

 

Absolutely yeah.... 

 

And the interesting thing is that...  yeah... you're basically...   giving in those moments by expressing gratitude...   just saying thanks...

 

Yeah.. absolutely and you know like.. there was this study done...on giving   and what they found was that...  giving actually...  increases endorphins and oxytocin levels  for not just the person who's giving the act... or the person who's receiving the act....  but also from any  bystanders.. Anyone who observes the act...also feels  heightened levels of oxytocin and endorphins...

 

Yeah...  and the thing is that... you know..   I think that a lot of really great communities... I think you know.. follow into this trap...   because what happens is that...  we always live in this sense of duality... there's good .. evil...  the bad side the wrong side.. everything...   but you're never going to be able to forgive the other side...   unless you find some way to connect...  by connecting I'm not saying...  that you need to fall into this emotional trap where you're now... you feel the need to...   be so deeply connected...  that's not what I'm saying but...   actually forgiveness is a selfish act...   it's a selfish act...

 

Yeah.. it is..  yeah

 

And..  you can then start to  move more into the appreciative aspects of things.... It's like what can I appreciate about this situation...     how can I move to a place where I can give thanks...  

 

Yeah, yeah.. absolutely..  

 

Men Collective Consciousness

 

So then... let me .. I guess talk about it from a guy's perspective... right.. you've talked about... what happens you know... like... and specially with the collective consciousness of women... and there's also the collective consciousness of men...  I think one of the first things that... you know.. I think come to mind is probably guilt...  guilt is  a big one...  I imagine that could happen because men feel this  deep need to... you know.. look after women...  you know... trying to take care of them too....   do you think that could be something that you know is.. is ... a part of the collective consciousness of men too?

 

For men.. yeah.. guilt is huge...  This is part of like... a respect of which... of genders that's passed down...  you know.. my parents of course... 

 

And I guess that these collective traumas...  can also be combined with...  you know.. expectations...  so you know.. like....  especially with the expectations... like that can also lead to anxiety.... like feeling like you need to....be expected to....   do this or that... like... parental conditioning...   is a big part of it.. you know...   These are my hopes for me... these are my goals for you...  and there was a lot of energy directed towards men in that...    in that fashion too...  so then it's no wonder that many times would women and men... you know.. it can cause disruptive relationships  because now that  sense of mutual compassion  isn't there...  

 

Yeah, yeah... absolutely... and you know what they say.. expectations always lead to disappointments….. so it's very important to break free  from that expectations attitude...  

 

As well as the expectations others may have of you...  

 

Yeah, yeah... absolutely...  

 

And I guess.. the thing that  I guess men can really...   think... assist with and help with... is  I guess working on themselves...  because that will allow them to be more coherent..  specially to what women are saying...   because you know... having respect for  the collective consciousness of women..   and then women having the collective... respect for men too...   it now stops creating that sense of... separation between them...  

 

Yeah absolutely ... and even the expectations...   part of it goes back to like... self boundaries as well...   it's like oh well if I don't have an expectation for you know...  my partner would not do this... then that's wrong in my world... then by all means you know...   those are self boundaries...  as like those are self respect boundaries that I set for myself...  and like I won't be in a relationship... where I am treated this way.... you know... 

 

I mean.. we can truly lift one another up....  with embracing new forms of growth..,.like you know... having...   feeling more and more... like you're being lifted...  for both women and men...   it actually works beautifully.... it works you know.. with.. as well  as collectively so it's just  like you know... for a lot of my friends is like you know having that sense of    you know.. brotherliness... and lifting each other up...    and I know also you've had that experience as well... it can really help ... and it goes...  both ways too like... having that sense of respect  as you know..  as a consciousness and now its like how can we work together to help the world because  we have this mutual love with our planet right?  

 

Yeah.

 

And mutual love for each other...